Please find below minutes for the Forum meeting on 14th September 2010. If you have any items for the agenda please forward them to me. Regards Stella
Yarnfield Forum Meeting 29thJune 2010
In attendance
Committee
Stella Hughes, Karen Chapman, Margaret Broader, John Smee, Richard Charlwood, John Thirlwell, Jack Womersley
Members
Dorothy Harmer, Keith Willars, Pam Williams, Hilary Pemberton, Mr K Reynolds, Fred Willers, Shirley Shackleton, Paul Jones, Linda Eyre, Margaret George, Russell Cartlidge, SBC; Stan Highfield, SBC; Jim Arnold, SBC; Frank Cromey SPC
Apologies
Christine Bird, Jane Grocott, Brian Eyre
Signing of minutes of the Forum meeting 19thJanuary 2010
Linda Eyre stated that she had not spoken in favour of dissolving the Forum
Stan Highfield disputed that the Playbuilder application was withdrawn due to lack of Borough Councillor support but actually because of comment made by Community Council rep. that the plan would not get beyond the first stage of judging with SBC. Mrs Hughes commented that the Planning Department had clearly stated that our Borough Councillors had withdrawn their support and that we had been instructed to amend the Design Statement to reflect this information. Without our Borough Councillors' support the bid could not go forward, as this was a condition of the Playbuilder bid.
Mr Reynolds questioned when consideration had been given to removing the bike track and zip wire and why this had not been put to consultation with the villagers
Stella explained the timing of the withdrawal had meant discussions had gone no further than initial ideas between herself, Karen Chapman and one of the Parish Councillors.
After amendments to reflect this information it was proposed that the minutes of the previous meeting be signed.
Proposed – Jack Womersley
Seconded – Paul Jones
Special meeting 2ndMarch 2010
Jim Arnold – corrected information on Section 106 money, which would be reclaimed by the developer not the council, if left unspent. Also explained that SBC treat all planning applications the same and therefore it would not be easier to move forward if SBC put plans forward themselves
Proposed – John Thirlwell
Seconded – Paul Jones
Frank Cromey suggested it might be less time consuming at meetings if changes to minutes could be made prior to the meeting via email.
Hilary Pemberton requested that minutes revert to what they should be, ie. a brief overview of the meeting rather than trying to capture every word
Linda Eyre asked if the minutes could be displayed in the noticeboard
Stella answered that they usually are but had not been on this occasion
Matters Arising
Village Fete
Stella
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3 gazebos were purchased via Chris Leese for £45 each plus £20 storage boxes = £195 out of the £300 that had been set aside
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Leftovers from the “England” stall were sold in the pub for Help The Heroes raising £38
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Both our Village Agent and our rep from SaRH had been there to help out on the day
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Made a request for any feedback on the fete
Dorothy Harmer – shopping aisle was a mistake as second row got left out.
Richard – this had already been noted and consideration being given to alternative layouts.
Mr Reynolds – fete was really great, thanks to Richard and all who helped.
John Thirlwell – thanks should be given to all villagers who attended fete for their support.
Dorothy Harmer – a thank you be posted on the notice board.
Stella – a thank you has already been put in notice board.
Linda – special mention to grass cutters for their work.
Mr Reynolds – agreed
Richard – special thanks for all those who turned out to set up and clear away, stage area a real success
Richard – comments/suggestions to be emailed to or posted through to Stella,.Debrief will be held in Labour In Vain on Wed after World Cup final.
Dorothy Harmer – too many cake stalls, WI had to take quite a lot home.
Stella – WI didn’t indicate they would be selling cakes but mainly other home produce; the other cake stall didn’t confirm until week of fete.
Stella – need to make very clear that fete meetings are not exclusive, all are very welcome, last 6 or so meetings were advertised on noticeboard;this needs to be done again next time
Dorothy Harmer – why Stone Responders chosen to benefit not Eccleshall when it seems to be them who get here first when call is made.
John Smee – Eccleshall have 24hr on call service with vehicle kept in drive; the Stone vehicle is based centrally in Stone.
Jack Womersley – re golf stall. Consideration needs to be given to balls / clubs as irons + light weight balls not good, a putter may be better.
SaRH Garages
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garages should have been painted but not done yet, maybe realised that more than painting is needed
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free courses available, information in notice board; courses open to all
Best Kept Village - Positive oral comments received from judges in June
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Next visit in July if we get through to the final
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Presentation in August, if anyone would like to attend – inform Stella
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Mr Wilson taken on watering one of planted areas on Furlong, but need help with other one
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Will be in touch with SaRH regarding use of builder's sand in place of soil and lack of bark covering.
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Lots of people are helping with litter collection, Village Hall and Playgroup contributions have enhanced the village tremendously
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Have arranged to present prizes to children in school for poster competition on 9thJuly
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Quote for installing bench was £200 so John, Jim and Richard have done it. Original proposed siting altered following objection from resident during consultation
Dorothy Harmer – bench looks really nice as you come through the village
Lynda Eyre – it has a nasty knot in seat which might cause damage to clothes
Stella said that she will arrange to get the knot dealt with.
John Smee – What is happening re. boulders on green idea to solve problems with parking
Stella asked Jim Arnold (SBC) for advice.
Jim Arnold stated that we would need to discuss this with SBC re. height and placing of boulders because of issues with maintenance.
Stan Highfield has been in discussion with Steve Allan and the school. Outside school parking is improving- could report number plates but must be prepared to give evidence in court
John Thirlwell – only one small sign up which people say they haven’t seen; 2 or 3 cars in particular parking on green repeatedly.
Jim Arnold -car owner could sue for damages to car if they hit a boulder. The Forum must discuss the issue with SBC before doing anything. He would prefer to tackle offenders rather than put boulders down.
Stan Highfield will speak with Steve Allan again in light of what has been said.
John Thirlwell agreed to take photos of vehicles and pass on to SBC. He expressed concern that these are short term solutions though. What needs to be done is to provide parking for the school.
Stan Highfield believes this will be sorted with the new development of the BT site.
Mr Reynolds - fencing around green as a solution, SBC not sorting the problem.
Jim Arnold – can’t legally do this
Stan Highfield – defended SBC for what they have done and reiterated that SBCnare willing to resolve this issue.
Jack Wormersley asked why can’t the road be adopted.
Stella & Jim Arnold – responsibility for roads is with SCC not SBC so this question cannot be answered here.
Secretary’s Report
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Invitation to TPAS AGM to whom SaRH are affiliated.
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Letter from Tom Wardle re. football, thanking Forum for their offer to pay £180 towards expenses (Stella suggested we might decide to pay the full £480 to cover costs of courts) if they have further funding.
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Mr Arnold stated that it might be possible to obtain financial help for the football team from SBC.
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Invitation to BKV results announcement Monday 2ndAugust
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Notices for bus shelter from SCC re: scams etc
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BKV poster competition reminder – entries have been sent
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Email from SaRH re. free courses – to be displayed in notice board
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Letter from Hilary Pemberton, suggesting that rather than seeking further funding for the play area, we use what we settle for a smaller, quicker solution in order to draw a line under the problems of the past and not fuel any further ill feeling – committee to consider these points
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Letter from Stella to Brian Eyre regarding issue of village hall planters being used without village hall committee go ahead
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Email to Parish Council from Forum thanking them for donation towards BKV expenses & bulbs and requesting more of these, also informing about success of village fete
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Letter from Bladerunner, thanking Forum for donation of prizes and advising on their successful fundraising for Alzheimers Society
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Skatepark notice – skatepark returning to Springfields School 9th– 13thAugust
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Email to Sally MacDonald SBC requesting information – see below
Letter to Sally MacDonald (SBC) re Section 106 money / play area
Karen – requested list of play equipment providers which SBC approve, list of recently refurbished sites to view, information re. additional funding from other grants which Mr Highfield and Mr Arnold were looking into and confirming Forum will provide wish list of equipment after consulting villagers
Jim Arnold
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SBC would not consider a “wish list” from the community. He recommended not spending the remaining Section 106 money now but hold off until BT site developed.
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Development of BT site envisaged to be used to tackle issue of insufficient play facilities in Yarnfield.
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Negotiations with developer should result in offsite contribution to fund toddler / junior play area.
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Section 106 on-site contribution would fund youth / sports facilities.
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Toddler/junior play facilities would be provided on existing site on green.
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Youth/sports provision on BT playing field with changing facilities etc. football & MUGA or wheeled sports area.
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Present site would be replanned at same time as facilities on BT site to give cohesion.
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Would not be appropriate use of 106 money to add equipment to current site now if changes are to be made again in a few years following BT development, would be a waste of resources when area would be ripped up and replanned.
Stella – would sports facilities be free to use?
Jim Arnold – play facilities would be free; pitches would be for hire probably at normal SBC rates ie cheaper than Springbank Park, eg. £300 for adult team per season, £150 for youth team per season.
Stella asked which play policy is now in place at SBC?
Jim Arnold explained that a new policy had now been adopted but changes are being made to it continually to make it workable.
John Thirlwell – What would be the timescale?
Jim Arnold – suggested that within 5yrs the developer should be onsite.
Lynda Eyre – When would payment of 106 and offsite contribution be made?
Jim Arnold – SBC would aim to get this money upfront but may not be possible until some housing has been completed and sold. There would be interest for developer to pay and SBC would aim to spend the money promptly.
Lynda Eyre – What consultation would be carried out?
Jim Arnold – A concept design would be developed then made available to the community
Stella – suggested that once the planning application for BT site goes through we arrange a special meeting to discuss play area matters with Jim Arnold further.
Stella – Many parents are very disappointed with play equipment we have. They feel that metal and wet pour are not the most appropriate for our village setting. They also want equipment that provides good play value.
Jim Arnold – considers our play equipment to be good, not within the poorest quality play areas in SB by a long way. He would not recommend use of wood as it burns easily and doesn’t last as long as metal.
Mr Reynolds – the £16000 should be used to benefit our children NOW
John Thirlwell and several others agreed with this point of view..
Margaret George suggests we have special meeting to discuss further after planning has gone through as making no progress in our discussion now.
Mr Reynolds – Is Jim Arnold saying we cannotspend the Section 106 money we already have now?
Stan Highfield – The recommendation is to wait and use it with the offsite contribution from the BT site, otherwise we are likely to jeopardise the chance of receiving such a large contribution from the developer.
Stella commented that the remaining 106 fund would be insufficient to upgrade the play area ; it would only provide or replace one or two items of equipment. Later complete refurbishment would still be justified. It could be ten years before the present development was completed. Something is required now rather than at some unspecified future date.
Mr Reynold's asked if it would be possible to recycle equipment from the Victoria Park site. It was pointed out that it was not possible to do this.
Treasurer’s Report
There is £3458 in the bank.
General Administration account- £962
We have received a grant of £150 from SaRH on completion of our successful audit.
Two raffle prizes for Bladerunner's Alzheimer's Appeal came to a total of £19.98.
We have £37.27 left in the BKV account. ( Our prize money from the Calor Gas competition has been used to purchase plants for the village, during the year).
£550 grant on rural communications -still available. £58.80 having been spent for provision of this year's web site.
The account for the Senior Citizens stands at £32.96
Any Other Business
Margaret left copies of a health survey to be given out interested villagers.
She outlined the function of the Staffordshire Heritage Group. The problems and failures of trying to save Yarnfield House were outlined. Mr Highfield pointed out that the destruction of Yarnfield House resulted from the decision of a government inspector; both the Parish Council and the Borough Council had objected to the development. Margaret described the advantages of group membership and handed out information while requesting that this matter be included in the agenda for September.
Margaret outlined the free lectures that she could give, if villagers were interested. It was agreed to arrange some of these.
Pam Smith explained that maintenance of rear gardens was the responsibility of flat owners.
It was agreed that Stella should approach BTCV with regard to cleaning up the brook and surrounding vegetation.
Mr Reynolds enquired if we knew what would happen to St. Barnabas's Church. Mrs Harmer said that the diocese would be responsible for this decision.
Richard pointed out that there was an album of fete photos behind the bar of the pub. He enquired where it could be keptl The Forum or the Shop were suggested. There had been problems with the web provider so there had been difficulties loading information on to the web. Andrew Locker would help with this.
Richard was also hoping to source old photos of the village.
He raised concerns about the depressions in the green which rapidly became waterlogged and enquired what was the procedure to address this issue. Mr Highfield said that he would mention this matter with Mick Bailey. Richard offered to provide an engineering proposal but Mr Highfield said that this would be done by the BC. Richard then asked if he could be included in any meeting with SBC representatives when they came to inspect. Stella pointed out that the present play area was extremely wet and perhaps this could be
rectified at the same time. Mr Highfield felt that this would be an expensive undertaking at a time when cuts of 30% were likely. It was proposed that it might be possible to discuss this at a later meeting with Mr Arnold.
Mr Reyold's expressed concern that a line of mature trees at Walnut Tree Farm had been felled during the consultation period for the renewal of planning permission for the site. He had been told by workers that the trees were being lopped not felled. This was considered a considerable loss of amenity for some residents on Greenside, and an unnecessary action, as the trees were not near the proposed development.
Paul reported his concerns regarding the pot holes on Greenside. Stella and Stan had reported these and so had residents on Greenside. It was suggested that we approach Henry Butter re. this matter.
Residents were reminded of the Village Hall AGM on 15thJuly at 7.30.
End of meeting.
THE NEXT MEETING OF YARNFIELD FORUM IS ON SEPTEMBER 14TH AT 7.30P.M. IN THE VILLAGE HALL.